Record vs Super record cups

[Air23]

Hi
I want to install my Chorus crankset and Campy recommend only Record BB cups not SR
Do you know what's the difference between Super record and Record ulta torque cups - (appart from the colour)??
i prefer the black colour but Record group hasn't it

[bikerjulio]

I believe that Campy omitted the seals on the SR cups because apparently ceramic bearings are less susceptible to dirt

[Air23]

I believe that Campy omitted the seals on the SR cups because apparently ceramic bearings are less susceptible to dirt

are the seals the only one diference??

[bikerjulio]

yup I believe so.

[Air23]

Could i buy spare seals to install both with SR cups in order not to have any problem with my Chorus crank??

[bikerjulio]

Sorry, can't help with that one. I've not seen seals sold separately. Or know if they are replaceable.

[jglantzx2]

Absolutely no problem, the only difference is the black anodizing.

[bikerjulio]

As I said - the difference is in the lack of seals on the SR.

If you don't believe me, check pages 4 & 6

http://www.campagnolo.com/repository/documenti/en/Spares11-A-061010.pdf

[gnogiq]

ack! I have the same situation. I have 2010 Chorus 11 speed cranks. Competitive cyclist sold me the SR BB cups. There is a note in the SR BB box that says "Never use for Record Cranks".

It sounds like there is a lack of seals. I can still swap the bottom bracket for a Record BB for use with the Chorus cranks.

What was the final recommendation here? I am having a hard time deciphering what is ok based on the previous posts.

Thanks

[bikerjulio]

well, the seals are on the inside, keeping any water or dirt that gets into the BB area away from the inner side of the race. so if this is a fair weather bike, I wouldn't worry too much. and don't use a hose anywhere near the area. some bikes seem prone to collecting water in the BB, so you might want to check if it does get wet after a wet ride. safer to change for regular record BB if you can.

[gnogiq]

Thanks for the info. I am dealing with an older steel frame, a REAL Schwinn Paramount from 1987. It is SLX tubing - which at this point, might need more care. I will have to inspect. I think the Record cups are the way to go.

[jglantzx2]

The seals are on the bearings.

[bikerjulio]

yes- the regular bearings have a seal - so do the record cups. as i said, if it's a fair weather bike, then no problem with using SR cups.

if you ride in the rain and the bike has a tendency to collect water in the BB shell, then the regular cups with their seal would seem to be a good idea.

[jglantzx2]

they removed seals to save weight and are not needed under most conditions